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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: 'Class Clown' Carlin - More Theist Than Atheist |
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I sure enjoyed watching the George Carlin marathon on HBO
last week. Eleven uncensored comedy specials, listed here:
1) George Carlin at USC - 1977
2) George Carlin Again! - 1978
3) Carlin at Carnegie - 1983
4) Carlin on Campus - 1984
5) Playin' with Your Head - 1986
6) What Am I Doing in New Jersey? - 1988
7) Doin' It Again - 1990
Jammin' in New York - 1992
9) Back in Town - 1996
10) You Are All Diseased - 1999
11) It's Bad for Ya - 2008
I always loved Carlin, ever since his 'Class Clown' album
of 1972, with the famous Seven Words You Can Never Say on
Television, namely (politely misspelled) Chit, Piss, Fvck,
Cvnt, Cocksvcker, Motherfvcker, and Tits.
My favorite live performance of Carlin was Jammin' in New
York, 1992, though it's like trying to pick your favorite
The Beatles album, they're all absolutely great (but if I
had to pick one, I'd say 'Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club
Band', which I first heard on the AM transistor radio out
in 'Fr'isco approaching the summer of '67...groovy, baby).
George Carlin's 1992 Paramount Theater gig on the grounds
of Madison Square Garden was of particular interest to me,
since that's the time he stated "I don't believe anything
the government tells me", which I've properly paraphrased
as "everything the government tells me is a lie", meaning
the same thing. I didn't realize it at the time, but this
axiomatic statement of Carlin's, that the U.S. Government
always lies to the public about everything, not just some
things but absolutely everything, proved self-evident, as
have a lot of other statements Carlin made over the years.
Carefully watching this back-to-back, two-night (12-hours)
George Carlin HBO marathon reminded me of a lot which I'd
forgotten. I mean I'd seen these HBO comedy specials when
they'd originally aired, but in hindsight I simply wasn't
mature enough to comprehend what George Carlin was really
saying, the always-tragic consequences of human stupidity,
which, as Albert Einstein wittily observed, is "infinite".
For example, I hadn't realized Carlin predicted the quote
"collapse of the economy" -- and he rightly gloated about
it with a smile on his face "won't bother me!", referring
to the greedy, warmongering bankers, brokers, politicians,
lawyers, corporate executives, robber barons, antichrists
etc. I believe Carlin's soul went directly into the Light
when he died, himself having been more Theist i.e. honest,
than most so-called "Christians", "Catholics", ad nauseam.
Carlin even acknowledged the great worldwide flood, which
surprised me given his characteristic condescending views
of the bible. But I don't blame him for it, as he admitted
himself, he'd been a Catholic! It's like what "Joe Friday"
(as brilliantly created and played by Jack Webb) liked to
say about ganja, something like "I judge marijuana by the
company it keeps." Same goes for the bible. Few who claim
to be "Christians" have actually read the bible, and fewer
still actually agree with the testimony of Jesus, and with
Moses and the Prophets, all of whom testified to the Light.
In a society where people go to Church, Synagogue, Mosque
("God gets a three-day weekend"), then they're right back
to the old grindstone of Antichristism, the love of mammon,
of lies, of murder, of hypocrisy, of inhumanity, injustice
and inequality, of war, of profit--the Atheist bottom line,
it's no wonder Carlin held a far less than enlightened view
of the bible, seeing that those who claim it as their good
book seldom if ever follow the Commandments written therein.
They damned-sure haven't paid attention to the testimony of
Jesus, for if they had they would've repented of their sins.
We see they have not, but only wax worse and worse, living
and dying proof that so-called "Christians" are not at all,
but are Antichrists, Atheists, man, oblivious to the Light.
When Carlin was talking about the homeless, and converting
golf courses into low-cost, government-subsidized housing
communities, he sarcastically said something to the effect
that "No, we can't do that, that sounds too much like what
Christ would do!" You see, Carlin was in truth a Theist at
heart because he spoke the truth--most of the time anyways.
Back to the collapsing economy. There's no denying it, the
economy is collapsing, and those who are most worried about
it are people who have money. Whereas, the poor wage-slaves,
the unemployed/under-employed, homeless and the soon-to-be-
homeless, don't care, because the poor have nothing to lose
but their penniless lives. When us poor people turn on CNN,
FNC, MSNBC, CNBC, ad nauseam, we hear Atheistic propaganda,
typically from millionaires, and a few billionaires (maybe
a trillionaire or two for all we know?), whining, worrying,
arguing and getting angry about the falling dollar, losing
money hand over fist. Like George Carlin said: "Fvck 'em!"
I totally concur. I do pray incessantly that the US Dollar
falls to zero, and all these money-grubbing Americans lose
their God-Damned shirts! Jesus, and Moses and the Prophets,
warned them in no uncertain terms *NOT* to worship gods of
gold and gods of silver, *NOT* to worship mammon, *NOT* to
worship the Molten Calf, but to fear God: and stop sinning!
But did they listen to Jesus or Moses? HELL NO THEY DIDN'T!
And no wonder, as Jesus, and Moses and the Prophets, said,
the Atheists never hear--much less heed--the dire warnings,
not even if anyone were resurrected from the dead. The fact
is Antichrists always remain unrepentant of their atrocious
abominations to the bitter end. Antichrists always live in
sin, and die unrepentant, then lift up their eyes in Outer
Darkness, Dark Limbo, in abject *terror*, seeing the Light
from afar off, on the wrong side of the impassable abyssal
where they are forced to see their long-dormant CONSCIENCE
in superconscious clarity! And if this isn't excruciating
enough (believe me it is, I've been there, and I wouldn't
wish it on my worst enemy, but alas, Atheists never listen
to the warnings, but always learn the hard way, too little
too late), the Atheists are faced with the grim spectre of
future Judgment waiting for them in the Light, seeing that
they must again mortally incarnate (a.k.a. re-incarnation)
and reap exactly what they've sown: those who lived by the
sword, in the same manner they shall die by the sword, and
those who'd led into captivity, similarly they are led into
captivity, unto the third and fourth generation of Atheists,
all just like the bible says. You see, "Christians" haven't
actually read the bible. If they had they would've repented.
And once they accept their lamentable fate, and cross over
into the Light, they quickly forget that Kronos is ticking
down the hours to their next mortal incarnation, when they
are kicked out of heaven to be born alive into the lake of
Fire. And when this happens, when we are informed that the
time for us to be cast down from heaven rapidly approaches,
that a newborn infant awaits our soul (after sojourning in
the heavens, in the City of Delight on Mt. Olympus, hidden
in the Dark cloud) we forget *why* we are being banished to
to a life of mortal servitude, of struggling, suffering and
dying _because_ of our karmic indebtedness, unpaid debts to
the third part, waxing contemptuous, "what did I do wrong?",
but always in vain, because the Judge passes True Judgment,
and Sentence is executed. This is _exactly_ how it happens,
death, unto the second death, amid the battle of Armageddon
fought in the Air, i.e. the superconscious, between rushing
forth and returning, in heaven, upon earth and subterranean,
the tension in the Air, the great battle in heaven, verily,
the war of ten sidereal years, hence the ten Centuries, by
the zodiacal elements four each, altogether fifth, as above
so below. As best I can discern, it's the fragile human ego
which prevents the Fallen from seeing this apocalyptically,
the veil so thin, yet more than enough to blind the Atheist
i.e. from seeing the eye of the Sky within thus manifesting
without, all things being added, temporized reflection with
the Luminaries, then imperfect, all to the issue of it. See?
I really did try my best to warn the Atheists, Anti-Christs,
Americans, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Agnostics, hypocrites,
the rich and the powerful, the potentates and kings, of the
earth, and the merchants made rich by the harlot of Babylon,
and her negotiators, the diplomats, & foreign "dignitaries",
all men image of the beast-worshippers, all lovers of power
and cupidity, the self-interested, and brainwashed, the bit,
banished, and misled, that the clear-writing is on the Wall.
But I guess the usenet has proven to be no productive forum
for communication with the rich and powerful, the Americans,
the Damned, who own and control the world with an iron fist.
They're fast losing ownership, and fast losing control, and
fast losing their tempers thus giving the poor something to
celebrate. We've been praying to God for the destruction of
the United States, and by Jove! it appears as though that's
actually happening. I just feel sorry for the children, who
are too naive to understand what is happening, and why it's
happening. But at least we can take solace that Antichrists'
Empire of sinning against God is on the brink of Armageddon.
___________________________________________________________
In closing, George Carlin was right-on about a lot of things
(among of the most talented comedians since Chaplin, I'd say).
And if you can overlook his worldly cynicism, you'll find he
expressed some very keen insights into the hopeless state of
the world i.e. in stark contrast to what it might've been if
not for the root of all evil, i.e. even them which crucified
Hope at Calvary in 31 AD. If not for the evils of this world,
Carlin wouldn't have found fodder to fuel his stellar career.
You see, Hope is with God. Whereas, this world is without God,
ergo without Hope, unjust men little or not at all conforming
to the superior aspect of Venus, Justice. Fallen men are born
unjust, born to rush forth in sin, born as brutes essentially
born to die, coarse, low, diseased, rebellious, to the extent
that Armageddon is manifesting into the world, into world war
unto the end of the world, i.e. not "the war to end all wars",
but the war and all manner of Apocalyptic plagues to end the
world, the end of the whole human race, were it not for some
modicum of the elect humans who more conform to the superior.
You could see Carlin's cynicism progressively more pronounced
with each of the aforecited eleven HBO comedy specials, until
he realized that people who are brainwashed cannot be reached,
they cannot be saved. Thank God they die. They all die, every
God-damned last one of them...a ray of Hope here in Hell Fire.
Armageddon Cometh,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: 'Class Clown' Carlin - More Theist Than Atheist |
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nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info ("Non scrivetemi") wrote:
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:16 am Post subject: Re: 'Class Clown' Carlin - More Theist Than Atheist |
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:20:50 +0200 (CEST),
nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info ("Non scrivetemi") wrote:
Sure, Danny. What Carlin would likely have had to say to you for even
suggesting he might believe in your sky pixie would be too much even
for cable.
You're a moron, Min. |
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: Re: 'Class Clown' Carlin - More Theist Than Atheist |
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On 30 Jun, 04:16, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:20:50 +0200 (CEST),
nonscrivet...@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info ("Non scrivetemi") wrote:
Sure, Danny. What Carlin would likely have had to say to you for even
suggesting he might believe in your sky pixie would be too much even
for cable.
You're a moron, Min.
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It's strange, but I had never heard of George Carlin before the report
of his death.
Did he ever perform in Europe or did he only ever perform in the USA?
Wombat |
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:00 am Post subject: Re: 'Class Clown' Carlin - More Theist Than Atheist |
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In alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, "Non scrivetemi" had the audacity to say that:
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I sure enjoyed watching the George Carlin marathon on HBO
last week. Eleven uncensored comedy specials, listed here:
1) George Carlin at USC - 1977
2) George Carlin Again! - 1978
3) Carlin at Carnegie - 1983
4) Carlin on Campus - 1984
5) Playin' with Your Head - 1986
6) What Am I Doing in New Jersey? - 1988
7) Doin' It Again - 1990
Jammin' in New York - 1992
9) Back in Town - 1996
10) You Are All Diseased - 1999
11) It's Bad for Ya - 2008
I always loved Carlin, ever since his 'Class Clown' album
of 1972, with the famous Seven Words You Can Never Say on
Television, namely (politely misspelled) Chit, Piss, Fvck,
Cvnt, Cocksvcker, Motherfvcker, and Tits.
My favorite live performance of Carlin was Jammin' in New
York, 1992, though it's like trying to pick your favorite
The Beatles album, they're all absolutely great (but if I
had to pick one, I'd say 'Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club
Band', which I first heard on the AM transistor radio out
in 'Fr'isco approaching the summer of '67...groovy, baby).
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What a marvelous post. I too always thought that Carlin's soul was still
wet from the baptismal font of his infancy.
All of his routines were aimed at lifting the conversation, facing hard
truths and coming to terms with the hydra called human speech.
To look at the curse words he used and critisize him on that basis is like
critisizing Mark Twain because Huckleberry Finn contains racial epithets:
the point is not to degrade but to point to society's faults so they can be
seen in the clear light of day.
Although Carlin claimed not to believe in God, you can never know what is in
a person's heart. He certainly showed he cared about people, and that's more
than what some who call themselves Christian can claim.
*R* *H*
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"You will have a marvelous journey. And, young as you are, what matter if it
costs you some pain -- or even a little blood?..."
F. W. Murnau, Nosferatu (1922) |
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: Re: 'Class Clown' Carlin - More Theist Than Atheist |
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On 7 Jul, 07:50, Rockinghorse Winner <rockingho...@deadtime.com>
wrote:
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In alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, Wombat had the audacity to say that:
On 30 Jun, 04:16, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:20:50 +0200 (CEST),
nonscrivet...@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info ("Non scrivetemi") wrote:
Sure, Danny. What Carlin would likely have had to say to you for even
suggesting he might believe in your sky pixie would be too much even
for cable.
You're a moron, Min.
It's strange, but I had never heard of George Carlin before the report
of his death.
Did he ever perform in Europe or did he only ever perform in the USA?
Wombat
Carlin was all the rage amongst me and my Junior High friends in the early
70's. He was one of the first comedians to reach the generation which came
of age after the 60's.
His album, Class Clown, was virtually memorized by our group, and I can
still remember bits and pieces of the routines to this day. I'd say
together with Cheech and Chong, Carlin represented freedom of thought a
break from the old style comedy of Bob Hope, Don Rickles, etc.
While C&C were all about pleasure and seeking bliss, Carlin always had a
sharp point to his routines.
IMO, his comedy got sharper and better as he got older, and he was one of
the few comedians to remain a standup figure his whole career, not branching
out to other show biz outlets like movies, TV, etc.
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This is probably why I never heard of him
Wombat
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Although he did try his
hand at TV, it did not do well. Lucky for us, since we needed his
observational humour more than he needed the extra money!
The country will be poorer because of his absence from the scene.
*R* *H*
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"You will have a marvelous journey. And, young as you are, what matter if it
costs you some pain -- or even a little blood?..."
F. W. Murnau, Nosferatu (1922)- Hide quoted text -
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:50 am Post subject: Re: 'Class Clown' Carlin - More Theist Than Atheist |
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In alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, Wombat had the audacity to say that:
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On 30 Jun, 04:16, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:20:50 +0200 (CEST),
nonscrivet...@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info ("Non scrivetemi") wrote:
Sure, Danny. What Carlin would likely have had to say to you for even
suggesting he might believe in your sky pixie would be too much even
for cable.
You're a moron, Min.
It's strange, but I had never heard of George Carlin before the report
of his death.
Did he ever perform in Europe or did he only ever perform in the USA?
Wombat
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Carlin was all the rage amongst me and my Junior High friends in the early
70's. He was one of the first comedians to reach the generation which came
of age after the 60's.
His album, Class Clown, was virtually memorized by our group, and I can
still remember bits and pieces of the routines to this day. I'd say
together with Cheech and Chong, Carlin represented freedom of thought a
break from the old style comedy of Bob Hope, Don Rickles, etc.
While C&C were all about pleasure and seeking bliss, Carlin always had a
sharp point to his routines.
IMO, his comedy got sharper and better as he got older, and he was one of
the few comedians to remain a standup figure his whole career, not branching
out to other show biz outlets like movies, TV, etc. Although he did try his
hand at TV, it did not do well. Lucky for us, since we needed his
observational humour more than he needed the extra money!
The country will be poorer because of his absence from the scene.
*R* *H*
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"You will have a marvelous journey. And, young as you are, what matter if it
costs you some pain -- or even a little blood?..."
F. W. Murnau, Nosferatu (1922) |
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: 'Class Clown' Carlin - More Theist Than Atheist |
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Rockinghorse Winner <rockinghorse@deadtime.com> wrote:
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In alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, Wombat had the audacity to say that:
On 30 Jun, 04:16, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:20:50 +0200 (CEST),
nonscrivet...@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info ("Non scrivetemi") wrote:
Sure, Danny. What Carlin would likely have had to say to you for even
suggesting he might believe in your sky pixie would be too much even
for cable.
You're a moron, Min.
It's strange, but I had never heard of George Carlin before the report
of his death.
Did he ever perform in Europe or did he only ever perform in the USA?
Wombat
Carlin was all the rage amongst me and my Junior High friends in the early
70's. He was one of the first comedians to reach the generation which came
of age after the 60's.
His album, Class Clown, was virtually memorized by our group, and I can
still remember bits and pieces of the routines to this day. I'd say
together with Cheech and Chong, Carlin represented freedom of thought a
break from the old style comedy of Bob Hope, Don Rickles, etc.
While C&C were all about pleasure and seeking bliss, Carlin always had a
sharp point to his routines.
IMO, his comedy got sharper and better as he got older, and he was one of
the few comedians to remain a standup figure his whole career, not branching
out to other show biz outlets like movies, TV, etc. Although he did try his
hand at TV, it did not do well. Lucky for us, since we needed his
observational humour more than he needed the extra money!
The country will be poorer because of his absence from the scene.
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No one in this thread has actually posted a cite for one of his
routines. Many of them need video, or at least audio, to convey the
humor, and numerous ones abound.
But here is the routine that made him famous.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/bushbeat/archives/2008/06/say_it_aint_so.php
and here is a randomly selected collection of audios/videos of his
routines (which I have not watched) - the first is the one cited
above:
http://www.mustsharejokes.com/page/Top+George+Carlin+Bits?t=anon
lojbab
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: PGP Key |
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:36:25 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
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Are you using an unknown key? I found your keys on MIT Server and
imported
them but the message will not validate a key signature. What gives?
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