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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

The more I read about Kathleen Sebelius, the more I think that she
would be a very good running mate for Barack Obama. Some people might
think that choosing another woman for a running mate would be a slap
in the face in regards to Hillary Clinton. Some others might think
that having a woman on the ticket could be.

She seems to have a lot of political upside. She's a 6 year
governor,and so she has political executive experience. She was
regarded as one of the most popular governors in the country in 2006.
She's a moderate Democrat and has worked well with Republicans. She
even convinced Kansas Republicans to switch parties in 2006. She
erased a $1.1 billion budget deficit in her first year as governor
without raising taxes. Most of all,she is not at all polarizing which
is something that Hillary Clinton has been viewed as being.

She is a native of Ohio. Her father was a Governor of Ohio,and so even
her father has political executive experience. Her husband is a
federal magistrate judge.

Some say that her downside is no foreign policy experience,but Obama
could just have highly experienced people in cabinet positions like
Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense. Therefore,I don't see how
that would be a problem.


I think that she would not only make a good vice president, but would
make a good president. I believe that she's capable of becoming the
first female President of the United States. I would vote for her.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=b2280f10-7bd0-478d-9f18-ae5e5d184b66
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius
http://www.governor.ks.gov/about/bio.htm

Her Moon is in the same sign as Obama's Sun - Leo,and that can
indicate that they can find common ground with each other because they
have basic similarities which can include
passion,self-expressiveness,confidence,warmth,generosity...but if not
handled properly, egotistical,arrogance,wanting to take center stage
too much. Her Mercury is in the same sign as Obama's Moon -
Gemini,and so there is more similarities like
intellectual,curious,inquisitive,versatile,into variety....but if not
handled properly, flighty,fickle,scattered.

Her Saturn-Pluto conjunction to Obama's Sun seems to point that they
could have a shared significant destiny. Her Pluto is only 6 minutes
conjunct his Sun! His Saturn trines her Sun. Therefore they have a
Sun-Saturn double whammy,and so they can ground each other. Her Sun
in Taurus forms a grand trine with his Mars in Virgo trine Saturn in
Capricorn, and that can indicate that together they have a strong
connection that indicates the ability to be
organized,practical,grounded,and run things together which is perfect
for a President and Vice President. Their Venuses conjunct in
Cancer,and they do like each other. That can be a nurturing and caring
influence. Her Saturn conjunct her Descendant indicates that she can
be grounding to him and be a rock for him at times. Her Jupiter 16
minutes trine his North Node seems like she can help him with his
karmic path.



My only concerns are her Uranus square his Mars which can indicate
sudden irritations at times. His Uranus squares her Sun,and so he
could be erratic to her at times, but his Uranus sextiles her Uranus
and trine her Jupiter which indicate that they share progressive views
in common.


Their composite chart has Sun-Venus-Mercury-Moon-North Node in Cancer
trine Saturn in Scorpio! Mars in Virgo trine Jupiter in Capricorn
Wow....this seems like a great partnership.


I hope he picks her. She has a lot of political upside,and she would
be a great asset with her ability to work across party lines,her
executive experience,and her family and political connections to Ohio.

If Hillary's supporters are angry about another woman being picked, ah
well.....we can't always get what we want. No matter what the outcome
is, there will be a lot of people that will be displeased and who will
complain. You see it with the Democratic nomination and you will see
it with the Presidential Election.



Raymond
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

On 18 Jun 2008, "astynaz@yahoo.com" <astynaz@yahoo.com> posted some
news:4d23d909-11a5-493d-9aed-e6f343916511@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

Quote:
The more I read about Kathleen Sebelius, the more I think that she
would be a very good running mate for Barack Obama. Some people might
think that choosing another woman for a running mate would be a slap
in the face in regards to Hillary Clinton. Some others might think
that having a woman on the ticket could be.

She seems to have a lot of political upside. She's a 6 year
governor,and so she has political executive experience. She was
regarded as one of the most popular governors in the country in 2006.
She's a moderate Democrat and has worked well with Republicans. She
even convinced Kansas Republicans to switch parties in 2006. She
erased a $1.1 billion budget deficit in her first year as governor
without raising taxes. Most of all,she is not at all polarizing which
is something that Hillary Clinton has been viewed as being.

She is a native of Ohio. Her father was a Governor of Ohio,and so even
her father has political executive experience. Her husband is a
federal magistrate judge.

Some say that her downside is no foreign policy experience,but Obama
could just have highly experienced people in cabinet positions like
Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense. Therefore,I don't see how
that would be a problem.


I think that she would not only make a good vice president, but would
make a good president. I believe that she's capable of becoming the
first female President of the United States. I would vote for her.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=b2280f10-7bd0-478d-9f18-ae5e5
d184b66 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius
http://www.governor.ks.gov/about/bio.htm

Her Moon is in the same sign as Obama's Sun - Leo,and that can
indicate that they can find common ground with each other because they
have basic similarities which can include
passion,self-expressiveness,confidence,warmth,generosity...but if not
handled properly, egotistical,arrogance,wanting to take center stage
too much. Her Mercury is in the same sign as Obama's Moon -
Gemini,and so there is more similarities like
intellectual,curious,inquisitive,versatile,into variety....but if not
handled properly, flighty,fickle,scattered.

Her Saturn-Pluto conjunction to Obama's Sun seems to point that they
could have a shared significant destiny. Her Pluto is only 6 minutes
conjunct his Sun! His Saturn trines her Sun. Therefore they have a
Sun-Saturn double whammy,and so they can ground each other. Her Sun
in Taurus forms a grand trine with his Mars in Virgo trine Saturn in
Capricorn, and that can indicate that together they have a strong
connection that indicates the ability to be
organized,practical,grounded,and run things together which is perfect
for a President and Vice President. Their Venuses conjunct in
Cancer,and they do like each other. That can be a nurturing and caring
influence. Her Saturn conjunct her Descendant indicates that she can
be grounding to him and be a rock for him at times. Her Jupiter 16
minutes trine his North Node seems like she can help him with his
karmic path.



My only concerns are her Uranus square his Mars which can indicate
sudden irritations at times. His Uranus squares her Sun,and so he
could be erratic to her at times, but his Uranus sextiles her Uranus
and trine her Jupiter which indicate that they share progressive views
in common.


Their composite chart has Sun-Venus-Mercury-Moon-North Node in Cancer
trine Saturn in Scorpio! Mars in Virgo trine Jupiter in Capricorn
Wow....this seems like a great partnership.


I hope he picks her. She has a lot of political upside,and she would
be a great asset with her ability to work across party lines,her
executive experience,and her family and political connections to Ohio.

If Hillary's supporters are angry about another woman being picked, ah
well.....we can't always get what we want. No matter what the outcome
is, there will be a lot of people that will be displeased and who will
complain. You see it with the Democratic nomination and you will see
it with the Presidential Election.



Raymond

Ohio has a serious negro problem that she hasn't addressed. The largest
cities have become urban ghettos and negro crime is rampant. I'd hardly
call her a political success story.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:17:53 -0700 (PDT), "astynaz@yahoo.com"
<astynaz@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
The more I read about Kathleen Sebelius, the more I think that she
would be a very good running mate for Barack Obama. Some people might
think that choosing another woman for a running mate would be a slap
in the face in regards to Hillary Clinton. Some others might think
that having a woman on the ticket could be.

She seems to have a lot of political upside. She's a 6 year
governor,and so she has political executive experience. She was
regarded as one of the most popular governors in the country in 2006.
She's a moderate Democrat and has worked well with Republicans. She
even convinced Kansas Republicans to switch parties in 2006. She
erased a $1.1 billion budget deficit in her first year as governor
without raising taxes. Most of all,she is not at all polarizing which
is something that Hillary Clinton has been viewed as being.

She is a native of Ohio. Her father was a Governor of Ohio,and so even
her father has political executive experience. Her husband is a
federal magistrate judge.

Some say that her downside is no foreign policy experience,but Obama
could just have highly experienced people in cabinet positions like
Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense. Therefore,I don't see how
that would be a problem.


I think that she would not only make a good vice president, but would
make a good president. I believe that she's capable of becoming the
first female President of the United States. I would vote for her.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=b2280f10-7bd0-478d-9f18-ae5e5d184b66
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius
http://www.governor.ks.gov/about/bio.htm

Her Moon is in the same sign as Obama's Sun - Leo,and that can
indicate that they can find common ground with each other because they
have basic similarities which can include
passion,self-expressiveness,confidence,warmth,generosity...but if not
handled properly, egotistical,arrogance,wanting to take center stage
too much. Her Mercury is in the same sign as Obama's Moon -
Gemini,and so there is more similarities like
intellectual,curious,inquisitive,versatile,into variety....but if not
handled properly, flighty,fickle,scattered.

Her Saturn-Pluto conjunction to Obama's Sun seems to point that they
could have a shared significant destiny. Her Pluto is only 6 minutes
conjunct his Sun! His Saturn trines her Sun. Therefore they have a
Sun-Saturn double whammy,and so they can ground each other. Her Sun
in Taurus forms a grand trine with his Mars in Virgo trine Saturn in
Capricorn, and that can indicate that together they have a strong
connection that indicates the ability to be
organized,practical,grounded,and run things together which is perfect
for a President and Vice President. Their Venuses conjunct in
Cancer,and they do like each other. That can be a nurturing and caring
influence. Her Saturn conjunct her Descendant indicates that she can
be grounding to him and be a rock for him at times. Her Jupiter 16
minutes trine his North Node seems like she can help him with his
karmic path.



My only concerns are her Uranus square his Mars which can indicate
sudden irritations at times. His Uranus squares her Sun,and so he
could be erratic to her at times, but his Uranus sextiles her Uranus
and trine her Jupiter which indicate that they share progressive views
in common.


Their composite chart has Sun-Venus-Mercury-Moon-North Node in Cancer
trine Saturn in Scorpio! Mars in Virgo trine Jupiter in Capricorn
Wow....this seems like a great partnership.


I hope he picks her. She has a lot of political upside,and she would
be a great asset with her ability to work across party lines,her
executive experience,and her family and political connections to Ohio.

If Hillary's supporters are angry about another woman being picked, ah
well.....we can't always get what we want. No matter what the outcome
is, there will be a lot of people that will be displeased and who will
complain. You see it with the Democratic nomination and you will see
it with the Presidential Election.



Raymond
Sounds good, but does anyone have birth data on this lady?

Bert W. Fannin
Western sidereal Astrologer
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
www.ltastrology.com
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

but the fact is you're useless.




"Mr.ExtremeTwo" <kingextremehnic2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AC172E56B9D1Al6d36acad@194.177.96.26...
Quote:
On 18 Jun 2008, "astynaz@yahoo.com" <astynaz@yahoo.com> posted some
news:4d23d909-11a5-493d-9aed-e6f343916511@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

The more I read about Kathleen Sebelius, the more I think that she
would be a very good running mate for Barack Obama. Some people might
think that choosing another woman for a running mate would be a slap
in the face in regards to Hillary Clinton. Some others might think
that having a woman on the ticket could be.

She seems to have a lot of political upside. She's a 6 year
governor,and so she has political executive experience. She was
regarded as one of the most popular governors in the country in 2006.
She's a moderate Democrat and has worked well with Republicans. She
even convinced Kansas Republicans to switch parties in 2006. She
erased a $1.1 billion budget deficit in her first year as governor
without raising taxes. Most of all,she is not at all polarizing which
is something that Hillary Clinton has been viewed as being.

She is a native of Ohio. Her father was a Governor of Ohio,and so even
her father has political executive experience. Her husband is a
federal magistrate judge.

Some say that her downside is no foreign policy experience,but Obama
could just have highly experienced people in cabinet positions like
Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense. Therefore,I don't see how
that would be a problem.


I think that she would not only make a good vice president, but would
make a good president. I believe that she's capable of becoming the
first female President of the United States. I would vote for her.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=b2280f10-7bd0-478d-9f18-ae5e5
d184b66 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius
http://www.governor.ks.gov/about/bio.htm

Her Moon is in the same sign as Obama's Sun - Leo,and that can
indicate that they can find common ground with each other because they
have basic similarities which can include
passion,self-expressiveness,confidence,warmth,generosity...but if not
handled properly, egotistical,arrogance,wanting to take center stage
too much. Her Mercury is in the same sign as Obama's Moon -
Gemini,and so there is more similarities like
intellectual,curious,inquisitive,versatile,into variety....but if not
handled properly, flighty,fickle,scattered.

Her Saturn-Pluto conjunction to Obama's Sun seems to point that they
could have a shared significant destiny. Her Pluto is only 6 minutes
conjunct his Sun! His Saturn trines her Sun. Therefore they have a
Sun-Saturn double whammy,and so they can ground each other. Her Sun
in Taurus forms a grand trine with his Mars in Virgo trine Saturn in
Capricorn, and that can indicate that together they have a strong
connection that indicates the ability to be
organized,practical,grounded,and run things together which is perfect
for a President and Vice President. Their Venuses conjunct in
Cancer,and they do like each other. That can be a nurturing and caring
influence. Her Saturn conjunct her Descendant indicates that she can
be grounding to him and be a rock for him at times. Her Jupiter 16
minutes trine his North Node seems like she can help him with his
karmic path.



My only concerns are her Uranus square his Mars which can indicate
sudden irritations at times. His Uranus squares her Sun,and so he
could be erratic to her at times, but his Uranus sextiles her Uranus
and trine her Jupiter which indicate that they share progressive views
in common.


Their composite chart has Sun-Venus-Mercury-Moon-North Node in Cancer
trine Saturn in Scorpio! Mars in Virgo trine Jupiter in Capricorn
Wow....this seems like a great partnership.


I hope he picks her. She has a lot of political upside,and she would
be a great asset with her ability to work across party lines,her
executive experience,and her family and political connections to Ohio.

If Hillary's supporters are angry about another woman being picked, ah
well.....we can't always get what we want. No matter what the outcome
is, there will be a lot of people that will be displeased and who will
complain. You see it with the Democratic nomination and you will see
it with the Presidential Election.



Raymond

Ohio has a serious negro problem that she hasn't addressed. The largest
cities have become urban ghettos and negro crime is rampant. I'd hardly
call her a political success story.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:52:39 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
<bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote:
Sounds good, but does anyone have birth data on this lady?
Bert W. Fannin
Western sidereal Astrologer
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
www.ltastrology.com

It doesn't really matter, does it? Just make up something.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

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wrote:

Quote:
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:52:39 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:
Sounds good, but does anyone have birth data on this lady?
Bert W. Fannin
Western sidereal Astrologer
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
www.ltastrology.com

It doesn't really matter, does it? Just make up something.
Yes ut dies natter.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:21:30 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
<bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:27:51 -0700, Bob Officer
bobofficers@127.0.0.7
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:52:39 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:
Sounds good, but does anyone have birth data on this lady?
Bert W. Fannin
Western sidereal Astrologer
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
www.ltastrology.com

It doesn't really matter, does it? Just make up something.
Yes ut dies natter.

Prove it, Bert. This is one test which astrology has failed every
time it has been done.

Why don't you follow your buddy Reno Jeff and Pete Loonytoon...?



--
Ak'toh'di
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:55 am    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:34:19 -0700, Bob Officer
<bobofficers@127.0.0.7>
wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:21:30 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:

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On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:27:51 -0700, Bob Officer
bobofficers@127.0.0.7
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:52:39 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:
Sounds good, but does anyone have birth data on this lady?
Bert W. Fannin
Western sidereal Astrologer
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
www.ltastrology.com

It doesn't really matter, does it? Just make up something.
Yes ut dies natter.

Prove it, Bert. This is one test which astrology has failed every
time it has been done.

Why don't you follow your buddy Reno Jeff and Pete Loonytoon...?
Because I am a serious astrologer. Speaking of them, what

every happened
to Pete Loonytoon, as you so graciously put it. Locked away?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:59 am    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:34:19 -0700, Bob Officer
bobofficers@127.0.0.7
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:21:30 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:

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On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:27:51 -0700, Bob Officer
bobofficers@127.0.0.7
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:52:39 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:
Sounds good, but does anyone have birth data on this lady?
Bert W. Fannin
Western sidereal Astrologer
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
www.ltastrology.com

It doesn't really matter, does it? Just make up something.
Yes ut dies natter.

Prove it, Bert. This is one test which astrology has failed every
time it has been done.

Why don't you follow your buddy Reno Jeff and Pete Loonytoon...?

Because I am a serious astrologer. Speaking of them, what
every happened to Pete Loonytoon, as you so graciously put it. Locked
away?



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:55:34 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
<bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:34:19 -0700, Bob Officer
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:21:30 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:

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On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:27:51 -0700, Bob Officer
bobofficers@127.0.0.7
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:52:39 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:
Sounds good, but does anyone have birth data on this lady?
Bert W. Fannin
Western sidereal Astrologer
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
www.ltastrology.com

It doesn't really matter, does it? Just make up something.
Yes ut dies natter.

Prove it, Bert. This is one test which astrology has failed every
time it has been done.

Why don't you follow your buddy Reno Jeff and Pete Loonytoon...?

Because I am a serious astrologer.

LOL, Burp, there is no such thing because astrology doesn't work any
better than random guessing. I guess you had your head up your ass so
far you missed the news.

Quote:
Speaking of them, what
every happened
to Pete Loonytoon, as you so graciously put it. Locked away?

I guess, he isn't out scamming people anymore. I figured you and your
buddy Jeff was shacking up in his trailer in Reno.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

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Quote:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:55:34 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:

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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:21:30 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:

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On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:52:39 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:
Sounds good, but does anyone have birth data on this lady?
Bert W. Fannin
Western sidereal Astrologer
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
www.ltastrology.com

It doesn't really matter, does it? Just make up something.
Yes ut dies natter.

Prove it, Bert. This is one test which astrology has failed every
time it has been done.

Why don't you follow your buddy Reno Jeff and Pete Loonytoon...?

Because I am a serious astrologer.

LOL, Burp, there is no such thing because astrology doesn't work any
better than random guessing. I guess you had your head up your ass so
far you missed the news.

Speaking of them, what
every happened
to Pete Loonytoon, as you so graciously put it. Locked away?

I guess, he isn't out scamming people anymore. I figured you and your
buddy Jeff was shacking up in his trailer in Reno.
Nope have not had word one from or about those two in years. Have you

not
anything better to do then name call? Sad.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:40:23 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
<bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:49:29 -0700, Bob Officer
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:55:34 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:

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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:34:19 -0700, Bob Officer
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:21:30 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:

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On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:27:51 -0700, Bob Officer
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wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:52:39 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:
Sounds good, but does anyone have birth data on this lady?
Bert W. Fannin
Western sidereal Astrologer
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
www.ltastrology.com

It doesn't really matter, does it? Just make up something.
Yes ut dies natter.

Prove it, Bert. This is one test which astrology has failed every
time it has been done.

Why don't you follow your buddy Reno Jeff and Pete Loonytoon...?

Because I am a serious astrologer.

LOL, Burp, there is no such thing because astrology doesn't work any
better than random guessing. I guess you had your head up your ass so
far you missed the news.

Speaking of them, what
every happened
to Pete Loonytoon, as you so graciously put it. Locked away?

I guess, he isn't out scamming people anymore. I figured you and your
buddy Jeff was shacking up in his trailer in Reno.

Nope have not had word one from or about those two in years. Have you
not anything better to do then name call? Sad.

IIRC correctly you haunted the bay area play acting as a
wizard/astrologer and introduced Both Jeffcoat and Pete to the scene.
They both were partners with you with the webfarm/website on sidereal
astrology you guys had based in the Med.

BTW astrology has faired even worse over the years. Totally
disproved.

http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
is an interesting article.

Sad is a person still trying to scamming people using astrology.

Even more sad is a person using PGP for something so trivial.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:09:52 -0700, Bob Officer
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Quote:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:40:23 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin


Nope have not had word one from or about those two in years. Have you
not anything better to do then name call? Sad.

IIRC correctly you haunted the bay area play acting as a
wizard/astrologer and introduced Both Jeffcoat and Pete to the scene.
They both were partners with you with the webfarm/website on sidereal
astrology you guys had based in the Med.

BTW astrology has faired even worse over the years. Totally
disproved.

http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
is an interesting article.

Sad is a person still trying to scamming people using astrology.

Even more sad is a person using PGP for something so trivial.


Wrong. I was never associated with Stapelton. I took my early
classes in
Sidereal Astrology from Jeff at the San Francisco School of Sidereal
Astrology. But parted company because I came to feel that he and
Mazurek
were not teaching according to Fagan.
All the rest of what you say is just just babel.
Sorry, but you are making statements that are not true. There is a
name for
people who do that.

Warmest Regards,

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:35:32 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
<bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:09:52 -0700, Bob Officer
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wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:40:23 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin


Nope have not had word one from or about those two in years. Have you
not anything better to do then name call? Sad.

IIRC correctly you haunted the bay area play acting as a
wizard/astrologer and introduced Both Jeffcoat and Pete to the scene.
They both were partners with you with the webfarm/website on sidereal
astrology you guys had based in the Med.

BTW astrology has faired even worse over the years. Totally
disproved.

http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
is an interesting article.

Sad is a person still trying to scamming people using astrology.

Even more sad is a person using PGP for something so trivial.


Wrong. I was never associated with Stapelton. I took my early
classes in
Sidereal Astrology from Jeff at the San Francisco School of Sidereal
Astrology. But parted company because I came to feel that he and
Mazurek
were not teaching according to Fagan.

Too bad the records and web pages showed you were involved and that
Jeffcoat was nothing but a shill for Pete.

Quote:
All the rest of what you say is just just babel.
Sorry, but you are making statements that are not true. There is a
name forpeople who do that.

Your web page claims Jeffcoat was a talent...

and I see your peer review section is still a total blank.

That's because astrology fails every test and review.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: Kathleen Sebelius Reply with quote

In article <jtmq54ljc05ul1rulln4vc12fqpmitdu5t@4ax.com>,
Bert Fannin <bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:

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Because I am a serious astrologer.

No, you're just a deluded moron.
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